19 June, 2009

1982

"Bentwood Farms has sought to consistently breed Arabians with correctness, athletic ability and the classic elegance which excites the mind and never deceives the eye for beauty."-Bentwood Farm: A Breeding Philosophy, from the 1982 advertisement in Arabian Horse World
For me, the mere mention of the word "Bentwood" is the equivalent of saying "Disneyland" or "Hollywood".
So many wonderful horses....

all
in
one
place

I don't know if people new to Arabian Horses, in these post-Bentwood years, will understand what Bentwood meant and for me and many other people, still means. At the time, Bentwood Farms had the largest and most diverse collection of Egyptian Arabian Horses, assembled in one location, not only in the United States but in the world. Bentwood Farm was a very HUGE place, so big, you had to drive a car, to get from one part of it to another. Almost 20 years later and Bentwood's acreage still shocks me, as much as it did back then. The resources that made managing a farm like Bentwood possible, also made it possible for horses to be bred in unique combination of bloodlines. For a small breeder, with limited resources, it was not financially possible to do such things. Bentwood was able to arrive faster in a multi-generational program, without the aid of AI or embryo transfer and in the process give the entire community a bit of diversity, through these breeding combinations. What this farm was able to accomplish, with treasured Egyptian Arabians, remains significant. I am forever grateful to the dream that made Bentwood possible. Bentwood made it possible to have horses with Sirecho, Babson and Halima lines blended with Moniet el Nefous, Anter combined with Babson lines, *Ibn Hafiza bred with Babson lines; just to point out a few of the crosses that the farm tried. If it were not for Bentwood breeding, many of the influential farms of today, would not have the horses that have made their programs noteworthy. For example, Ariela Arabians in Moshav Bnei Zion, Israel, purchased the mare, AK Latifa (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Siralima) a Bentwood-bred mare foaled in 1977. AK Latifa produced four foals for Ariela, the most famous of which is the stallion Laheeb by Imperial Imdal. Laheeb is one of the most influential sires, world-wide in the entire breed community. In 1998, Laheeb traveled to Poland, to become the chief sire for the Janow Podlaski and Michalow state studs. Because of Laheeb, we enjoy in the show ring, Polish-influenced Arabian horses like Poganin and Emira. Laheeb was so successful in Poland, that he returned 10 years later. In Israel, Laheeb produced a World Champion, the handsome and popular straight Egyptian stallion, Al Lahab, now owned by the Friedmann family in Germany. Like Laheeb, Al Lahab traveled to America and stood at stud at the world famous Om El Arab International in California. Al Lahab is spreading Laheeb's influence even farther. This is one example...ONE...AK Latifa is just one of many Bentwood horses, to illustrate the powerful influence that Bentwood breeding still has upon the Arabian Horse community, to this day. It is rare to look at the pedigree of an Egyptian arabian Horse and not find a Bentwood horse, somewhere in the pedigree.
Bentwood indeed was a magical place, filled with the horses that I had read about and saw pictured in all the books dedicated to Egyptian Arabian Horse breeding and also in the leading magazines dedicated to the community. In the early 1980's, after the death of *Ibn Moniet el Nefous, some of the stallions standing at Bentwood Farm were The Egyptian Prince, Ansata Abbas Pasha, Ansata el Sherif, *Refky, Fadl Dan, Ansata El Arabi, *Nagid and *Ibn Alaa el Din. The mare collection was impressive. Outside of the EAO, there was no other place in the world with a herd this large. As a matter of fact, there was no place in the world, even at the EAO, that had a collection as complete as Bentwood's mare herd, with the Babson lines. For straight Babson Egyptian fans, Bentwood Farm owned the largest collection of Babson Egyptian mares, outside of the Babson Farm in Illinois. This was the home of Maarena, Bint Fada, Henrietta, Fa Dena, Aarouser, Roufah, Maar Kamalla, Sabrah, Serrasab, to name a few of the names. Bentwood presented the mares in a format similar to the Egyptian Reference Handbooks, cataloguing the mares by strain. While Bentwood had mares from every one of the major strains (Hadban, Kuhaylan Rodan, Kuhaylan Jellabi, Dahman Shahwan, Saqlawi and Abayyan), the wealth of the collection was found in 2 strains: the Saqlawiyah and the Dahmah.

I had the opportunity, a few years ago to purchase a copy of an early 1980 edition of a popular Arabian Horse magazine. In 1982, when this list was published in the magazine, I was overwhelmed. I could not comprehend what it would be like to have all of these mares assembled in one place. When I visited Bentwood 6 years later, this feeling did not vanish, it was MAGNIFIED. Seeing all the names on paper was overwhelming...seeing many of these mares, with my eyes and touching their coat split me in two. While Bentwood was blessed to have many of the top Egyptian stallions on the farm, the bigger blessing, the treasure, the prized jewels of Bentwood, were the mares that Bentwood owned and leased.

THE BENTWOOD MARE CATALOG
"The enduring quality of any breeding program rests with the female lines which were its foundation. Stallions receive more notoriety, but in fact, the finest and most prepotent stallions are never from anything but the finest mares. At Bentwood Farms, we have placed particular emphasis on mare lines and their strains. With any pedigreed bloodstock, the female line most often contributes more to the genetic makeup of the individual. The tail female line in the pedigree is of particure importance in breeding decisions. We have engaged in the most tedious research and have spared no effort or expense to bring together the finest and most prepotent group of foundation mares possible. Bentwood Farms has been noted for the quality of their mares, evidenced by 13 National Top Ten awards, two Reserve National Championships and one National Championship awarded in mare halter classes in North America. Bentwood mares have won three Reserve International Championships in England and in Europe in the past several years. More importantly, these mares are producing foals which are elegant, refined and prepotent themselves..."-from the 1982 Bentwood Farms brochure
HADBAN STRAIN


  • *Nabilahh (Anter x Farasha
  • Lohelia (*Morafic x *Nabilahh)
  • Bint Masarra (*Tuhotmos x *Masarra)
  • *Dawlat (Anter x Sheherazda)
  • *AK Dalia (*Ibn Hafiza x Aziza)
  • *AK Jaheena (Waseem x Mahbouba)
  • *Baheia (Shariar x Hemmat)

    • ABAYYAN STRAIN


    • *Magidaa (Alaa el Din x Maysa)
    • *Higran (Seef x Hodhoda)

      • SAKLAWI STRAIN


      • Bint Bint Moniet (*Rashad Ibn Nazeer x *Bint Moniet el Nefous)
      • Raya Del Sol (*Rashad Ibn Nazeer x *Bint Moniet el Nefous)
      • Monisa RSI (*Rashad Ibn Nazeer x *Bint Moniet el Nefous)
      • Muniet Nefous RSI (Umi x *Bint Moniet el Nefous)
      • AK Bint Monisa(*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Monisa RSI)
      • Bint Binte El Bataa (Emam x *Binte El Bataa)
      • Sittana (*Morafic x *Bint Binte El Bataa)
      • Bataasha (*Tuhotmos x *Bint Binte el Bataa)
      • Saqlawia Jedraniya (*Morafic x *Bint Binte el Bataa)
      • Bint el Rih (*Farazdac x *Bint Binte el Bataa)
      • Bint El Hadiyi (El Hadiyi x Saqlawia Jidrania)
      • Fathia (*Ibn Moniet El Nefous x Muniet Nefous RSI)
      • Bint Bint Mona (*Morafic x *Bint Mona)
      • *Hoyeda (*Morafic x Mona)
      • *Hayat (Anter x Tanta)
      • *AK Karama (Alaa el Din x Tanta)
      • *Sallama (Seef x Fayrouz)
      • AK Shahmona (*AK Shahm x Bint Bint Mona)
      • Dafeena (Dakmar x Farsa)
      • Kieshta (*Tuhotmos x Farsa)
      • AK Fariha (Ibn Morafic x Gasaara)
      • AK Khalifa (Ibn Morafic x *Gamilaa)
      • AK Bint Korima (Nawaf x Korima)
      • Serenity Galala (Serenity Osiris x Serenity Bint Montaha)
      • Zaenap (*Ibn Hafiza x *Hoyeda)
      • *Gamilaa (*Morafic x *Bint Hanaa)
      • *Bint Hanaa (El Sareei x Hanaa)
      • AK Anzar (El Sareei x Hanaa)
      • *Habeeba ( El Araby x Bint Hanaa)
      • *Maymouna (Akhtal x Mahlaha)
      • Fa Dena (Fa Serr x Khedena)
      • Il Bint Khedena (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Fa Dena)
      • Bint Fa Dena (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Fa Dena)
      • *Hayam (Mashour x Tahia)
      • Gasaara (*Faleh x *Hayam)
      • Ansata Salome (*Ansata Ibn Halima x *Ansata Bint Nazeer)
      • Bint Moftakhar (*Moftakhar x Ansata Fatima)
      • Iziza (Ibn Hafiza x Izees)
      • Sahrah (*Zaghloul x *Sooma)

        • KUHAYLAN STRAIN


        • Maarena (Fabah x Fada)
        • Maar Kamalla (Maar Rab x Maar Jumana)
        • Bint Fada (Fa Serr x Fada)
        • Aarouser (Fa Serr x Aaroufa)
        • Monaaroufa (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Bint Aaroufa)
        • Ahroufa (Ibn Fa Serr x Bah Roufa)
        • Roufah (Ibn Fa Serr x Bah Roufa)
        • AN Mon Ami (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Bint Fada)
        • AN Monica (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Bint Fada)
        • Bint Mon Ami (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x AN Mon Ami)
        • AK Bahiya (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Aarouser)
        • AN Moroufa (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Bint Aaroufa)
        • Nefousah (Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Maarifah)
        • Bah Rouse (Ansata Abbas Pasha x Bah Roufa)
        • Talnoa (*Talal x Noha)
        • *Nazzli (*Tuhotmos x Nagda)
        • Hamaama (Ibn Anter x *Hekmat)
        • *Omnia (Alaa el Din x Ameena)
        • Bint Omnia (*Morafic x *Omnia)
        • *AK Mayaada (Aseel x Madiha)
        • *Takwa (Aseel x Rawayeh
        • *Thawra (*Sultan x Rawayeh)
        • *Sanaa (Sid Abouhom x Yashmak)
        • Rabeeah (*Sakr x Romanaa II)
        • Bint Samim (Samim x Il Durra)

          • DAHMAN STRAIN


          • *Nagat (Anter x Abla)
          • *Somaia (Anter x Abla)
          • *Ein (Anter x Abla)
          • Serroya (Fa Serr x *Nagat)
          • AK Nashahma (*AK Shahm x *Nagat)
          • AN Mona Lisa (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x *Nagat)
          • AK Serrmonietta (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Serroya)
          • Sadaa (*Morafic x Somaia)
          • Sabrah (Fabah x Serrasab)
          • Serasaab (Fabah x Serrasab)
          • FA Halima (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Sabrah)
          • Serr Halima (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Serrasab)
          • Asal Sirabba (Sirecho x Habba)
          • Sirhabba (Sirecho x Habba)
          • Siralima (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Asal Sirabba)
          • Raalima (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Asal Sirabba)
          • AK Nadira (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Asal Sirabba)
          • Sirhalima (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Sirhabba)
          • AK Shahlima (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Raalima)
          • AK Bint Sirhabba (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Sirhabba)
          • AK Faiza (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Faarecho)
          • AK Yamaama (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Faarecho)
          • Dazeeralima (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Dazeera)
          • AK Monazeera (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Dazeera)
          • Henrietta (Ibn Fa Serr x Faaba)
          • AK Bint Henrietta (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Henrietta)
          • AK Jaleel Amaan (Ansata Abbas Pasha x Henrietta)
          • AK Amaana Moniet (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x AK Jaleel Amaan)
          • *Bint Sharara (Galal x Sharara)
          • *Hegrah (Alaa el Din x Hagir)
          • Masada Safaana (Saafaddan x Mist Aana)
          • Masada el Aba (Saafaddan x Daal Aba)
          • AK Fataana (Ra'adin Inshallah x Rafaana)
          • Jazana Moniet (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x Jazala)
          • Fa Saloul (Rafaar x Faarecho)
          • *AK Komeira (Ibn Galal II x *Pharrah)
          • Morajisa (*Morafic x Narjisa)
          • *Asilat Al Badeia (Seef x Atfa)
          • *Gazbeya (Shahriar x Hagir)
          • *Soheir II (Fagir x Tifla)
          • Ramses Ghazalahh (*Ramses Fayek x *Bint Ghazalahh)
          • *Bint Ghazalahh (Sid Abouhom x *Ghazalahh)
          • Rannana (*Soufian x Rahmaa)
          • Dahmah Shahwaniah (*Ansata Ibn Halima x *Bint Maisa el Saghira)
          • AK Layla (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x *Azzar)
          • Akid Danzarra (Hamdan II x *Azzar)
          • *Azzar (Nazeer x Ahlam II)
          • AK El Sanaa (Mosry x *Deenaa)
          • AK Fanniya (*Ansata Ibn Halima x Narimaan)
          • Narimaan (*Morafic x *Deenaa)
          • *Nasra (*Morafic x *Zobeya)
          • *RH Desert Elan (Ghalion x Kayad-1)
          • AK Molly Moniet (*Ibn Moniet el Nefous x AN Janie)
          • Hannah (Fabah x Fasera)

          • In the late summer of 1988, I had an opportunity to visit Bentwood Farms. My memories of the grandeur of Bentwood had been formed many, many years before my visit. Little did I know or even understand, that the sun had started to set for this most amazing place. I hardly slept the night before I was to visit the farm, thinking about the horses that I would finally get to meet. I set out early and I was so impatient, as the drive from Dallas seemed to never end. When I pulled up in front of the stallion barn, there was a beautiful, gleaming, silvery-white horse, turned out in a metal pipe corral, in front of the stallion barn. He was a little "hint", a preview if you will, the "opening act", for all of the beauty which I was soon to encounter. Later, I would learn that this horse was Prince Fa Moniet. Yes, the Prince Fa, who would eventually go to Ansata. I look back to this one day, a brilliant day, a beacon in my life, still shiny and bright in the "fog of the past", which enables me to write of this farm and somehow, help to perpetuate these treasures of the past. I wonder if I fully realized how significant, how precious, how priceless this day really was and how I would look back, still, in wonder and amazement. I am grateful for the experience to have visited this farm and for the generosity of the people at Bentwood, to show me all the horses.
            "As with all desert creatures, authentic Arabian horses possess an elegance and refinement which is unique." -Bentwood Farm: A Breeding Philosophy, from the 1982 advertisement in Arabian Horse World
            Enjoy your horses,
            Ralph

            08 June, 2009

            Imperial Phandala

            Imperial Phandala
            Imperial Phanadah, an *Ibn Moniet el Nefous daughter out of *Pharrah (Farag x 9 Tamria) was bred to Imperial Imdal and produced a leggy bay filly, who matured into a beautiful, elegant bay mare known as Imperial Phandala, possessing a charisma that delighted all who stood in awe of her. What impressed me most about Phandala was her incredible scope. It wasn't because she was a taller mare but Phandala was stretchy and willowy...her legs were longer, her back was longer, her neck and her head. She just had a lot of air built into her body. I always believed that she would be a phenomenal performance horse and I lament the missed opportunity that would have revealed an Egyptian super-horse to the rest of the world. She has a wonderful shoulder, set at an angle which allowed her to move her lovely long legs with much freedom, in a smooth, gliding and very efficient gait. She covered alot of ground in a few strides. Maybe it is also her substance, which conveys great power and strength. She has a well-muscled, shapely hindquarter, with well-muscled hocks, allowing her the ability to really reach under herself and drive her body forward. She is an authentic daughter of the wind, who eats up the ground in front of her easily, with her powerful movement. I wonder if this is also the influence of the Rodania family, which comes through Romanaa II (Sameh x Nazeera), the dam of Dalia, the mother of Imdal.

            While at Imperial, she was bred to *Ibn Safinaz, Imperial Al Kamar and Imperial Baarez. However, in 2008, Phandala was bred a little differently, as she produced by *Simeon Sachi, an excellent grey filly named Phanniya Al Atiq.
            Phanniya Al Atiq
            Phandala was bred again to *Simeon Sachi in September and the follow-up ultrasound confirmed that the pregnancy was negative. Disappointed, Anne-Louise planned to try again, the following spring. Imagine Anne-Louise's surprise, when her veterinarian, while checking Phandala for breeding, the following spring, determined that Phandala was actually pregnant!
            "When I found out Phandala was pregnant, I was so happy, and I told her, Phandala, I don't care what you have, as long as you stay safe and your baby is safe, but you are so beautiful, just so beautiful, I would love, love, love a foal who looks just like you so that I can see your beautiful face in the next generation."
            Pharalisa Al Atiq
            In the spring of 2009, Imperial Phandala gave birth to Pharalisa Al Atiq, a long-legged, long-necked, big filly who looks like her mother.
            "Bless my beautiful mare, she gave me a bay filly with identical markings to her mother."
            It will be interesting to watch their continued development, however, it will be their influence which will help to widen the influence of the Imperial Phanadah family, farther in the world of SE breeding. I compliment Anne-Louise Toner for the most astute decision to breed Sachi to Phandala, as evidenced by these classic fillies. For me, it is a happy moment, albeit bittersweet-flavored, as it confirms my "gut instinct" over the qualities that I believed Sachi could deliver, a long time ago. He is a very good breeding stallion.

            EnJoy,
            Ralph

            06 June, 2009

            I said no...

            Even while writing this story, I still feel like any minute, I am going to jump outside of myself, bolt and run all the way to Fredericksburg, to find my elusive "yes" and bring it on home. The above pictured colt is Maihab (True Colours x Abraxas Moonbeam) as caught  by Wojciech Kwiatkowski, from Poland. I learned about Maihab from a friend of mine, Judi Parks. She thinks that we are made to be together, this colt and me. Since learning about Maihab, I have spent a lot of time arguing with myself about this colt. I have driven my friends crazy, asking for advice. I have a litany of reasons why a colt is the last thing I need in my life right now. Without glancing at his picture and daydreaming about all the possibilities, I am strong and can remain loyal to my  "no". And then, one look at his picture and I lose my resolve and maybe, just maybe....
            I AM SO TEMPTED
            I have always dreamed of an intense relationship with a horse. A horse who could communicate with me , on the deepest and most intimate level. A colt that follows me everywhere, always ready for the next adventure. Even before there was a Pat Parelli and RFD-TV, I wanted a horse who could do some of the amazing feats that Parelli students learn how to do, like jump over picnic tables.
            "So he gets himself a horse, and a rope, and a song
            And he finds himself a hat, fancy boots, shiny spurs
            And there's nothing more he needs, or can have, or can get
            If he wants to keep ridin', ridin' along"-from the song, A Cowboy Needs a Horse, by Paul M. Howard and Billy Mills
            When I saw the movie, Dances with Wolves, I was impressed by the relationship that Dunbar enjoyed with his horse Cisco. WOW! I have wanted a friendship like that, for a very long time. Sometimes, I would get a feeling, in the middle of something else that I was doing, that someone was missing. WHO? So, when Judi started calling me about this really nice colt, I started to wonder, "is Maihab the one...is Maihab "the someone" who has been missing from my life?"

            I recognized the intelligence in the colt's face, as he is wide through his forehead and his ears are placed far and wide from each other at the base. He has huge nostrils, which tells me that he is very curious and interested in his surroundings. And his eyes are full, and black and soft, indicating that he is a kind, sane and loving horse. Gosh, do I really know what I am doing? Why am I saying no?

            I understand the amount of time that a colt needs, not to mention the consistency in training and development. And I also recognize that my life is intensely crazy at the moment, as work dominates every waking moment of my life. And when I am not working, one of my 3 kids will need to go somewhere or do something or have a need that only me, my car and my wallet can fill. How can I give another being any consistency, when I am hard pressed to find any consistency in my own life? In fairness to this wonderful colt, he needs someone who is a bit more stable, a little more steady...dare I say even, dependable or reliable? I have never worked an unbroken horse before...geezus, I need someone to train me. I feel like I am out of control.

            Over the last year, money seems to sift through my fingers, like sand at the beach. My oldest child just graduated from college and will be attending Graduate School in the fall. I know that she will need my help for school and for an apartment. My son, is a year or so away from attending college and a car and insurance. And my youngest, in high school , also has high-priced needs. Where does a colt fit in all of this? Am I crazy? I am afraid that for whatever valid reason, I will not be there for my kids, when they really need me. I love being a father to my kids.

            And then, Judi tells me he is going to be big. And that is like a hot piece of iron, stabbed into the very core of my being...SHE SAID BIG, LIKE SPORTS-HORSE-TALL-BIG...as in my own personal BIG dressage dream. How great would it be to ride an Egyptian Arabian Horse to a USDF medal, like my friend and mentor, Gail Hoff-Carmona did with her stallion, Serr Maariner? I thought my mare, Ms Rose, could take me far in dressage, but I looked silly, sitting on top of such a small horse. I won't even tell you about the woman who came up to us, after a championship show and smiled at me and said, "Cute pony." In a SUPER-SIZE-ME society, where petite ladies ride 17.2 behemoths, you can imagine how silly I felt, in that moment. Could a tall Maihab take me to the BIG places I still dream of going?

            Thee Desperado has been a heavily criticized horse in the SE community. I am not sure if the criticism originates because the horse has been heavily-used at stud and has a record number of progeny, which threatens some or because when a stallion becomes this popular, a successful stallion is assigned an unrealistic expectation of correcting every flaw. Anyway, I love underdogs
            "speed of lightning, roar of thunder
            fighting all who rob or plunder
            Underdog. Underdog!"-written by W. Watts Biggers, as the theme song for the American cartoon, Underdog
            and it would be very personally fulfilling to ride a horse of these bloodlines to a performance pinnacle like a USDF medal and throw the proverbial ice water on the inflammatory comments of Desperado's harshest critics.

            I have never answered the question for myself, in terms of what I want to accomplish in the world of horses. Am I a breeder or am I a rider? It seems like for a long time, I have had one foot in each. Is it possible to be both? On a budget? As the owner of two older mares, one would question, the label rider with an incredulous look on their face. He is a rider??? How can you be a rider with 2 older broodmares? Well, that is true. Neither horse can no longer keep up with the demands of regular, consistent training, maybe light trail rides but not a consistent program filled with 20 meter circles, extensions, half-halts and transitions. And yet, I don't think I fit in as a breeder either.

            This colt will be two years old in September and he still has a lot of growing up to do, a lot of maturing and he really needs time to grow into all of his parts. Is gelding a cute colt like this, in order to make him more manageable, the smartest thing to do? What if this cute colt metamorphoses into a physical vision of the ideal Arabian stallion? I met another person recently and I had the opportunity to visit her farm. I don't believe that she has a program, yet. She has some really great horses. Some blow-your-mind beautiful horses. Individually, some of these horses are fantastic, however, she has not gotten past buying good horses and blending these horses together, to create a program. To me, it seemed like she was distracted. She had horses that complemented each other and she had horses that as individuals, were good but did not work together. It was obvious that she needed to cull and make her program smaller and concentrate on specific horses. So, here is this colt. Is he my personal distraction? How would he fit with the two mares that I already have? Have I wanted to use True Colours (Thee Desperado x Daheda) and Abraxas Moonbeam (Abraxas Moonstruk x Abraxas Maar Hala), because I believed that these horses have the genetic elements I personally identified as consistent, for producing the type of horse I wanted to produce? Would this cute colt help me to create a breeding program where one did not exist previously? Or as I saw at this other farm, is this colt representative of a distraction that I cannot afford...would I end up wasting the little time I have collecting nice horses, but not getting any farther in defining my own personal vision? Where do I fit? Where do I really fit?
            “Work will win when wishy washy wishing won't.”-Thomas S. Monson
            So, here I sit, a bit miserable as try as I may, I just can't get him off my mind. That's the place where I keep getting stuck, even though I said no. Has this ever happened to you? As much as I try to push this cute colt out of my mind, he just keeps trotting back in, asking, "hey, you want to play?"

            I love horses...did I ever say that to you before?

            EnJoy your life, EnJoy your horses,
            Ralph